Welcome as a member Tiggsy.
I should have said this immediately but I did not realize straight away that you had joined!
I know you have been here forever but I finally talked you into becoming a member. I am very pleased!
Now I will be able to look back and find your fabulous answers (from this point forward)
Finally ... I have exhausted this question. There was a lot for me to work through here.
I do not remember seeing those formulas before that you used Tiggsy. Hopefully now they, and their proofs, are a little embedded into my brain.
Anyway, i finally fully understand both solutions so I am happy.
